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Alumnae vs Alumni

There's discourse on whether it should be changed to alumni for inclusivity, and I implore those in disagreement to discuss it here instead of in edit notes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doll Allison (talk • contribs) 18:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Megadesk edit warring

@Megadesk is making a lot of edits that are not constructive. They abuse certain sources (Davis and Donahue (1992). Miss Porter's School: A History) as cites, but give no page numbers. Then they keep adding social media as references. Now we have the problem mit MOS:Honorifics, reverted today. I suspect Conflict of Interest, lack of NPOV, and a strong personal connection to Miss Porter's, since they have made hundreds of edits on this page and almost nowhere else. The edits are often detriments to the page's quality. This is getting out of control. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 20:28, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Megadesk is back. Making boosterism edits with no referencing, using social media. Give us a break. --Melchior2006 (talk) 08:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Academics: Unreferenced assertions

We need a source for this, otherwise delete: Structured academically in accordance with contemporaneous, decidedly more econometric institutional models, nearly, if not painfully so, to point of paradox, the school counts more traditional novice-most intramural demonym, freshmen, amongst its (mod 4) grade level designations; more or less in keeping with decidedly (if not perfunctorily) post-structuralist tradition, by necessity of form, to project a selectively (if defensively) hypermasculine visual identity in terms of service (e.g., by insignia, Wellesley College). Melchior2006 (talk) 16:52, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Original research and entirely unencyclopedic in tone. Does not belong. SQGibbon (talk) 23:07, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Traditions

Currently, there are four traditions listed, none of them have any sourcing except for an illegit social media reference @Megadesk keeps edit-warring about. All of these traditions should be deleted if there is no sourcing for them. If Megadesk refuses to participate in discussions, then they should be blocked from editing this page. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 16:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, they should not be on the page. Even if they were sourced they would not belong without sources establishing not just the existence of these traditions but why they are important in gaining a general understanding of the subject. SQGibbon (talk) 23:05, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alumni

The sources have already been provided. Summerdays1 (talk) 00:57, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is classic WP:VNOT. A gallery of alumni doesn't promote an encyclopedic understanding of the subject, and pictures aren't there just for decoration. VQuakr (talk) 02:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is an interesting discussion for higher-ed editors, since alum pix galleries often get excessive, like the Miss Porter's alum gallery was. What criteria should we use in order to cut back on boosterism and self-promotion? --Melchior2006 (talk) 18:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zero is the correct number of pictures to have in a notable alumni list per MOS:PERTINENCE. VQuakr (talk) 19:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Technical and Professional Editing

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 13 January 2025 and 6 May 2025. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): CorpusScholar (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Dr.ozkul (talk) 21:28, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Improvements to the Miss Porter’s School Article

Hi everyone, I wanted to give a heads-up that I’ll be working on improving this article over the next few weeks. My goal is to enhance the overall quality of the page while ensuring it aligns with Wikipedia’s standards for neutrality, verifiability, and structure.

Key Areas of Focus:

Lead Section: The introduction could better summarize the key aspects of the school.
Organizational Structure: The article may benefit from a more logical structure, such as refining sections on history, academics, and student life. My first proposal would be to move the Campus section right after the lead to improve clarity.
Neutrality & Promotional Language: Some parts of the article may lean towards promotional wording or lack a neutral point of view. I’ll work to ensure balanced coverage backed by reliable sources.
Citation & Sourcing Issues: I’ll work on improving these references for statements that either lack citations or rely on sources that may not meet Wikipedia’s reliability standards.

CorpusScholar (talk) 17:43, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Using Miss Porter's School official website as a source for citations may violate Wikipedia's No Original Research (WP:NOR). While the school website can provide basic factual information, such as tuition costs or faculty listings, it is inherently a primary source with a promotional bias. Wikipedia encourages the use of independent, third-party sources—such as reputable news outlets, academic studies, or historical records—to verify claims and ensure neutrality. Citations relying solely on the school's website should be reviewed and, where necessary, replaced with more authoritative and neutral sources. If no independent verification exists for certain statements, those claims should be removed or marked with a [citation needed] tag to uphold Wikipedia’s content standards.

CorpusScholar (talk) 02:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Campus" Section: Focusing on Historically & Academically Significant Buildings

Some academic facilities were removed or condensed in the rewritten version to make the section more concise, structured, and encyclopedic, while still preserving historical significance. The Main House, Ann Whitney Olin Arts & Science Center, and Ford Library were kept because they are architecturally or functionally significant. Buildings that served specialized purposes (e.g., smaller departmental buildings) were removed or mentioned within a larger category.

Greene House (Admissions Office): Not an academic facility; an administrative building. Could be briefly mentioned under Admissions Process (if relevant).

Language Department Building: Part of academics but not historically unique. Covered under "Ann Whitney Olin Arts & Science Center."

Hamilton (English & History Dept.): Previously an infirmary but now a classroom building. Could be briefly mentioned in History if its past use is notable.

Leila Dilworth Jones Memorial (Language Dept.): Was once a pharmacy but now an academic building. Could be referenced in a Historic Buildings subsection if needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorpusScholar (talk • contribs) 02:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]